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To get this season going. I have a great deal of smack to talk. I need the NCA nation to be bold and hold firm. This team could be the best of all time.
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I think it's too early to say "could be the best of all-time". Are you discrediting the future teams? Besides, didn't NCA break the record for the most irrelevant posts about a basketball team this past season? We get it. Your team is good. Let it rest.
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WOW, The Basketball Gods must love you coach.
1. 7'1 kid ( I mean, a man child) going to a small tapps 2A
2. And he can move.
Hey coach, Your the MAN
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We only had 2 seniors on the basketball team, Nick is going to play at Trinity in SA and Brandon did not want to play basketball in college, he is headed to LSU.
We have 3 starters back and Patureau will be the only senior on the team this year. With lots of prayers, we will have (2 transfers) that will have a HUGE impact for the next few years.
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interesting...i think we can admit now that all the mid major d1 point guard talk was a little out there...speaking of that, have the offers started rolling in for patureau?
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guys TAPPS 2a is a pretty big joke..... especially in the 2A class. anyone who really brags about that must really feel small inside. Take any TAPPS 2A team and let them play with 5a UIL teams, it wouldnt be pretty out of all the 5A teams in the state, they may beat 30. so lets please stop braggin about basketball. Your school is good.....for 2A. and i spoke with that point guard via facebook... He said no D1 schools ever sent him letters or any BS, that was all crap, as you may know. But he also said he never sent tapes out, or even tried play at the next level, he is happy going to LSU. but he may regret that decision later on in life. He led NCA to two state titles... and he still agrees with me that winning in 2a is not worth bragging about. so can we please stop this talk about how the next nca team will be competing with yates for a national title.
on another note, it says mcdonald is playing at trinity, the guard for kingwood.. schleigh. who was one heck of a player if you ever watched him is going to ut dallas, they are both D3 schools, i am wondering how mcdonald is able to play at that level, unless he grew 5 inches taller, and got alot faster..... and can dribble
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Well when you start throwing UIL 5A teams in the mix it's hard for the vast majority of private schools to compete at that level, much less a TAPPS 2A team. Winning any kind of state championship is something to remember regardless of class. It's something these kids can be proud of, because they beat some good teams to do it.
There was a good bit of NCA talk that just wasn't necessary last year, and I suspect that won't change a lot this year unfortunately. But I think it's a bit much to totally dismiss out of hand what they were able to accomplish.
By the way . . . back in the heyday of NCA I know there was one or two UIL 5A teams that didn't want any part of NCA :-).
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well i may have exaggerated, but still no 2A team deserves this much talk... they almost didnt make it to the state tournament last year, victoria almost beat them. they were good, but when people read this board and watched them play, they probably felt disappointed, i knew what they had 2 years ago, a good little squad who let the basketball do the talking, now it seems the talking is louder than the dribbling, if you catch my drift
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It would be nice if the eventual champion - whoever it turns out to be - at least acts like they're happy to win the championship game this time.
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The NCA of last year was not comparative to the NCA of the past in any form in my opinion.
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havent u been reading.... the obvious champions are NCA. NCA is really gonna be competing with yates and st patricks for the national title this year. and i didnt see the past NCA teams, and no disrespect but i dont care how they compare, if the other nca teams handled their business without letting the world know how good they were i support them, and i still like NCA, it is not the schools fault parents get on here and yap, it just gets old, you all may not agree with me, but it is hard to take 2A serious when their are schools for handicap in districts playing basketball. I agree NCA is good for 2A, but are they this good to talk about all the time.... time will tell and we will see next season. But when you walk into a gym expecting to see a team like the Lakers, and get the knicks, you are gonna be let down, because nca couldnt live up to the hype last year even though they won, they were suppose to blow out every team by 20, it just sets the kids up to fail in my humble opinion
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likemike23 wrote:
NCA is really gonna be competing with yates and st patricks for the national title this year. and i didnt see the past NCA teams, and no disrespect but i dont care how they compare, if the other nca teams handled their business without letting the world know how good they were i support them, and i still like NCA, it is not the schools fault parents get on here and yap, it just gets old, you all may not agree with me, but it is hard to take 2A serious when their are schools for handicap in districts playing basketball. I agree NCA is good for 2A, but are they this good to talk about all the time.... time will tell and we will see next season. But when you walk into a gym expecting to see a team like the Lakers, and get the knicks, you are gonna be let down, because nca couldnt live up to the hype last year even though they won, they were suppose to blow out every team by 20, it just sets the kids up to fail in my humble opinion
Ah, LikeMike23, an expert at the "straw man" argument: attribute something to someone that they didn't say, and then attack that straw man you created outta thin air. Quite effective, unless exposed for the weakness it is. F'xample: when did anyone anywhere say NCA could compete with the top 5a teams, much less Yates/St Pats? If you answered no one. You're correct, but then why create that straw man argument? There are other similar stmts thruout your rant. But how about the whole 2a private vs 5a public comparison? Do you know why there are multiple classifications, privater and public? Either you don't know or choose to pretend it doesn't matter. Different errors, but errors either way. Errors of this size are seldom made innocently. My experience is that belittling the accomplishment of a State Championship is most often done by those without such accomplishments of their own. Am I right or wrong?
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likemike23 wrote:
.......it says mcdonald is playing at trinity, the guard for kingwood.. schleigh. who was one heck of a player if you ever watched him is going to ut dallas, they are both D3 schools, i am wondering how mcdonald is able to play at that level, unless he grew 5 inches taller, and got alot faster..... and can dribble
I agree Kyle is a good player. As to MacDonald, perhaps the coach at Trinity knows more about players and basketball than you. However unlikely that appears, you should at least consider that possibliity.
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dont know what games you watched.... All im saying is no team in TAPPS 2A deserves this much hype, its almost a joke, their are a couple good players, but nothing compared to any other class above it in TAPPS, or any other UIL classes, take NCA to a 1A UIL state tournament, they would get destroyed. Here is a tip since u know so much about basketball, a good team doesnt have 2 good players, and the rest of the team cant even dribble. as i saw with NCA the past year. a good team is a bunch of BASKETBALL players, not some people you dragged out of the hall so you could have enough people to play. I dont mean anything negative to NCA, they do it and do it well. They simply dont need all this talk about them
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It's really sad to see likemike23 actually have some traction on this board but I guess that's what happens when you toot your own horn relentlessly, build up players to something they aren't (who haven't asked that you do so..for the most part), and belittle other teams along the way. I really hope and pray that this year NCA plays like the underdog it's always been and realizes the whole point/reasonable perspective associated with high school basketball..work hard, build some teamwork, make some friends, and hopefully win some games, that's it...
By the way, I checked out the Trinity basketball webpage and found a list of incoming recruits and alas no McDonald to be found...I'm sure there are walk on spots to be had but let the kid earn it and then feel free to mention it
http://trinitymbball.blogspot.com/
So that very well could be 0 for 2 for NCADAD and his handy crystal ball..don't quit your day job
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likemike23 wrote:
....I dont mean anything negative to NCA........
Really? IMO, one of the more cowardly things to do on forums like these is to attack and them claim the oppoosite. But perhaps, someone has stolen your login password. Suggest reading posts above written by someone using the likemike23 ID and see if there's "anything negative" about NCA in them. Report your findings back here if you like.......mike
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no no no. NCA the school has nothing to do with this board, i dont see the coach getting on here and talking... atleast i hope he is not. Its the fans and the parents that are. I am just saying the NCA is good, but they are not good enough to be talked about all the time. You build up these kids saying how great they are, and talk about d1 schools recruiting them, and I guess thats fine, even though lying is a sin. But then people come on here trash talk the kids about how they arent good. Kids dont wanna see their name put out being trash talked on a website. I think they would rather let there basketball speak for them. I just dont see anyone winning at this argument..... NCA won the state championship last year..... But they also did not compare to the NCA team being talked about on this board....
Salami i dont know why its sad, i do not mean to insult TAPPS, it may seem like it but im exaggerating just to get the NCA lovers to really think about how their school is compared to others. I understand TAPPS does not have the people as UIL, but they talk like they are GREAT, almost the best ever. I just dont see the need to that
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likemike23 wrote:
.....You build up these kids saying how great they are, and talk about d1 schools recruiting them, and I guess thats fine, even though lying is a sin.....
Who lied? and about what?
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likemike23 wrote:
......But then people come on here trash talk the kids about how they arent good. Kids dont wanna see their name put out being trash talked on a website......
Then why do you trash the kids here?
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drthomassalami wrote:
......So that very well could be 0 for 2 for NCADAD and his handy crystal ball.....
What two predictions of NCADAD are you referring to?
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Even though NCA was not as good last year as they have been in the past I think it may have been another exaggeration to say they would get destroyed if they competed in a UIL 1A tournament.
Most of last year's NCA team is gone. They have moved on to other things, so it's probably time to stop talking about last year.
The talk has already been started regarding 2010-11, but with so many unknowns out there there is very little to actually be discussed until we see who is suiting up for the Warriors this season.
Will the talk stop? Probably not. It's a message board :-). That's just kind of the nature of things right, wrong or indifferent. Hopefully all the talk that is likely to come will not have a negative impact on the kids.
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Ninja, I must have gotten confused in the midst of mikemc007 and ncadad bantering back and forth and missed the fact that it was mikemc007 who made one of the predictions (solid D3) I was referring to..but I do remember ncadad being a cheerleader for hire for quite some of that time..here are some posts in case I have to refer back to previous predictions again...
LOL........No D1 players WOW... Lets see were to begin. Rice, Liberty, U of Penn, the Citdal, the U (Miami), Air Force, SMU are trying to buy the services of 6'6 205 Chris Patureau. Just think guys, Chris is only a junior. We will see you at STATE. Get your popcorn ready DALLAS..........
NCA has got two legitimate D1 players(Trower and Patureau, both returning 1st team All-Staters) along with a solid D3 player(McDonald) who shoots lights out with being a really good on-ball defender. Trower was virtually unstoppable this summer with his dribble penetration(against public 5A & 4A schools) with Patureau being his usual dominating self. ---This is quote I confused him with, cllassicc mix up
The point is why can't we just settle on talking about confirmed facts and players that are "solid" TAPPS 2A players instead of acting like NCA is Oak Hill or something...much more realistic and maybe a few more alumni will support NCA if the attitude changes a bit or you can get the empty seats ready
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NCA generated a lot of 'press' last year (300 + posts in one topic?). I don't know if that put pressure on the kids or not, but it certainly created an unrealistic level of expectancy in non-NCA folks who happened to watch the final four. It also appeared to contribute to an apparent "pro-whoever NCA's opponent is" sentiment among those of us who would otherwise be neutral observers. If that's how you want your school to be viewed...
Talking up your program is not a bad thing, but if you take it over the top, don't be surprised if you get a negative reaction from the peanut gallery.
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drthomassalami wrote:
Ninja, I must have gotten confused in the midst of mikemc007 and ncadad bantering back and forth and missed the fact that it was mikemc007 who made one of the predictions (solid D3) I was referring to..but I do remember ncadad being a cheerleader for hire for quite some of that time..here are some posts in case I have to refer back to previous predictions again...
LOL........No D1 players WOW... Lets see were to begin. Rice, Liberty, U of Penn, the Citdal, the U (Miami), Air Force, SMU are trying to buy the services of 6'6 205 Chris Patureau. Just think guys, Chris is only a junior. We will see you at STATE. Get your popcorn ready DALLAS..........
NCA has got two legitimate D1 players(Trower and Patureau, both returning 1st team All-Staters) along with a solid D3 player(McDonald) who shoots lights out with being a really good on-ball defender. Trower was virtually unstoppable this summer with his dribble penetration(against public 5A & 4A schools) with Patureau being his usual dominating self. ---This is quote I confused him with, cllassicc mix up
The point is why can't we just settle on talking about confirmed facts and players that are "solid" TAPPS 2A players instead of acting like NCA is Oak Hill or something...much more realistic and maybe a few more alumni will support NCA if the attitude changes a bit or you can get the empty seats ready
No problem. I get confused too from time to time. Just trying to make sure I didn't miss something amid the voluminous postings.
I want to point out something that the anti-NCA crowd -- I'll risk it that you are among them -- might want to consider: Y'all claim no ill-will toward NCA, only that y'all believe NCADAD, among other pro-NCA folks here, are over the top......then the replies (yes, I lumped y'all together, possibly unfairly) also go over the top EXACTLY THE SAME WAY THAT YOU DON'T LIKE TO SEE from NCADAD et al............at least until the factual aspect of those replies are challenged here. I have no problem with rose-colored opinions, even over the top ones, concomitant with the additional pressure it creates. Sort of the you-made-your-bed-now-sleep-in-it approach. Don't y'all see the response is IDENTICAL to the tone y'all find so distasteful? Some (not nearly all, thank goodness) even sink to bashing the KIDS. That ain't acceptable. Period.
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ribtips wrote:
NCA generated a lot of 'press' last year (300 + posts in one topic?). I don't know if that put pressure on the kids or not, but it certainly created an unrealistic level of expectancy in non-NCA folks who happened to watch the final four. It also appeared to contribute to an apparent "pro-whoever NCA's opponent is" sentiment among those of us who would otherwise be neutral observers. If that's how you want your school to be viewed...
Talking up your program is not a bad thing, but if you take it over the top, don't be surprised if you get a negative reaction from the peanut gallery.
and y'all were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO disappointed when NCA won it all. It galled a B-U-N-C-H of y'all. Panties were bunched up statewide for quite while........arguably, still are.
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